Self-Consuming Generative Models Go MAD
2023/07/04 by Sina Alemohammad, Alemohammad, Sina, Josue Casco-Rodriguez +13 · 20 voices · 45 citations
Computer Science · #Generative Adversarial Networks and Image Synthesis
paper · pdf · doi:10.48550/arxiv.2307.01850
Abstract
Model collapse — the degradation of models trained on model-generated data — has been characterized almost entirely at the level of outputs and distributions: perplexity, tail loss, diversity. We report a pre-registered experiment that probes collapse at the level of internal structure, using a measured geometric property of trained attention: the formation of conformal (power-law) attention heads, which prior work in this program showed natural text reliably induces (11–15/48 heads across seeds) while corpora engineered to match natural language's mutual-information statistics (0–5/48) and hierarchical grammar without reference (0/48) do not. We train a fresh Pythia-70m-class model, under an identical pre-registered protocol, on 1.1B tokens generated by the best-performing natural-text model — text carrying the full statistical fingerprint of a model that itself possessed the geometry (15/48 heads), produced at temperature 1.0 with no truncation. The pre-registered formation criterion (≥10/48) fails: the child model forms 7/48 conformal heads, with the deep steep-exponent population largely missing (at this formation scale no model, parent included, reaches the strict SYK-near window — formation count, not matured exponent, is the discriminating observable; see §2). A same-day two-seed replication on the identical corpus (declared before launch) confirms the failure is seed-robust: 7 and 3/48 — a child band of 3–7/48 that does not overlap the natural-text band of 11–15/48. Meanwhile the generated corpus itself has more long-range pairwise mutual information than the natural corpus at essentially every measured distance (post-hoc measurement, pre-registered estimator). The internal geometry collapses in a single generation, at unmodified sampling temperature, while the low-order statistics that existing collapse accounts track actually increase. Together with the earlier rungs of the program's corpus-discrimination ladder, the surviving explanation is that the driver of the conformal phase is language's binding to a persistent external referent — a property that generation by this small model does not preserve. Because the parent corpus (TinyStories) is itself frontier-model-generated, "synthetic" is not the operative variable — preservation of reference is. We propose the attention-geometry census as a cheap, pre-registerable, first-generation structural marker for data-quality and model-collapse studies. Pre-registrations (commits cbd0ab2f, 8454ac0d), code, per-head data, and experiment notes with recorded deviations are in the public repository 3ld0n/attention-geometry.
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- Self-Consuming Generative Models Go MAD [hn, 49 points, 52 comments]
- I was waiting for this point: The risk of generative models creating "Model Autophagy Disorder" (MAD) when training on their own synthetic data. Without fresh real data, future models may see a decl [bsky, 7 points, 2 comments]
- here u go have a primary source arxiv.org/pdf/2307.018... [bsky, 5 points, 1 comments]
- Das Mad AI disease wird schon diskutiert. Allerdings widerspricht dem Ganzen ein wenig der Wissensstand einer frischen Instanz von OpenAI, der derzeit noch mit 09/21 arbeitet. arxiv.org/abs/2307.018 [bsky, 4 points, 1 comments]
- Thinking about how AI models deteriorate when trained on AI generated material while trying to give myself a backrub arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850 [bsky, 3 points, 0 comments]
- arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850 [bsky, 3 points, 5 comments]
- that's not my understanding of this paper, but i believe you when you say it happens a lot and will happen more in the future. AI researchers can be awfully irresponsible lol arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850 [bsky, 2 points, 1 comments]
- Spicy take of the day (since I've been blocked by another user for actually knowing relatively-well what I'm talking about with respect to machine learning): many people are completely misunderstandin [bsky, 2 points, 1 comments]
- their fascinating paper on AI inbreeding (not yet peer reviewed) can be found here: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850 [bsky, 2 points, 0 comments]
- 🧪 Over-reliance on synthetic data can harm AI models, warn Rice and Stanford researchers. Three training types were identified. Too much synthetic data degrades models, but a moderate amount, much li [bsky, 2 points, 0 comments]
- Self-Consuming Generative Models Go Mad [hn, 2 points, 1 comments]
- Ouroboros arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850 www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/... [bsky, 1 points, 0 comments]
- I think this might be what I was hoping to find, too: arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850 [bsky, 1 points, 0 comments]
- "Our primary conclusion across all scenarios is that without enough fresh real data in each generation of an autophagous loop, future generative models are doomed to have their quality (precision) or [bsky, 1 points, 0 comments]
- There’s already a name for it which is a play on the original use of “MAD”… Model Autophagy Disorder (MAD) arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850 [bsky, 0 points, 0 comments]
- Do you know of MAD? Model Autophagy Disorder - AI trained on AI eventually breaks arxiv.org/abs/2307.018... [bsky, 0 points, 0 comments]
- Lastly, we see this as some evidence that, under the right circumstances, LLM-generated data can actually improve them. Also check related work by Alemohammad et al. (arxiv.org/abs/2307.01850) or Sh [bsky, 0 points, 0 comments]
- Source for quote in previous post: Alemohammad, S. et al. Preprint at arXiv doi.org/10.48550/arX... (2023). [bsky, 0 points, 0 comments]
- Seismic advances in GenAI algorithms for imagery, text, & other data types has led to the temptation to use synthetic data to train next-generation models. Repeating this process creates an autophagou [bsky, 0 points, 2 comments]
- all to train models to support projects that rarely do things we've haven't all seen before – completing tasks humans already like doing; synthesizing content we already have a disorganized surplus of [bsky, 0 points, 1 comments]
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