What Emergence Can Possibly Mean
2024/10/20 by Sean M. Carroll, Achyuth Parola, Carroll, Sean M. +1 · 12 voices · 4 citations
Physics and Astronomy · Computer Science · #Origins and Evolution of Life #Complex Systems and Dynamics #Chaos, Complexity, and Education
paper · pdf · doi:10.48550/arxiv.2410.15468
Abstract
We consider emergence from the perspective of dynamics: states of a system evolving with time. We focus on the role of a decomposition of wholes into parts, and attempt to characterize relationships between levels without reference to whether higher-level properties are "novel" or "unexpected." We offer a classification of different varieties of emergence, with and without new ontological elements at higher levels.
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- What is emergence? This is one of the most central ingredients of complexity, and a challenging one to formalize. Here's a paper by @seanmcarroll.bsky.social & Achyth Parola that attempts to classify [bsky, 155 points, 7 comments]
- Emergence is something we should be thinking deeply about in computational neuroscience. When we say 'computation through dynamics' what we're really talking about is different types of emergent compu [bsky, 38 points, 0 comments]
- "Everyone agrees that emergence is important, but they don’t agree on what the word should mean" arxiv.org/abs/2410.15468 [bsky, 23 points, 3 comments]
- I prefer an expansive but precise definition based on the existence of coarse-grained dynamics. Within that broad category we can distinguish various flavors. arxiv.org/abs/2410.15468 [bsky, 7 points, 1 comments]
- You're picking on more than just social science 😂 Relevant: arxiv.org/abs/2410.15468 [bsky, 3 points, 0 comments]
- gonna have to read this one when I get around to taking a break from exploring who's on this platform arxiv.org/abs/2410.15468 [bsky, 2 points, 1 comments]
- Library Files: What Emergence Can Possibly Mean by Carroll and Parola 2024. Very meta read but very worth it. Puts some mathematical heft behind emergence and how it needs to relate to known laws of [bsky, 1 points, 0 comments]
- Emergence🐚 arxiv.org/pdf/2410.15468 [bsky, 1 points, 0 comments]
- "What Emergence Can Possibly Mean" - great read from Sean Carroll (@seanmcarroll.bsky.social) and Achyuth Parola arxiv.org/abs/2410.15468 [bsky, 1 points, 1 comments]
- For understanding what a reductionist/emergentist (Unified) view might look like I highly recommend this paper by @seanmcarroll.bsky.social arxiv.org/abs/2410.15468 - Whilst I oppose his overall persp [bsky, 0 points, 1 comments]
- arxiv.org/pdf/2410.15468 [bsky, 0 points, 1 comments]
- 🧵 on Carroll & Parola's "What Emergence Can Possibly Mean" A spectral critique from beyond the physical substrate where we enjoy Ω daily (a paradigmatic Type-3 case). arxiv.org/pdf/2410.15468 @seanmc [bsky, 0 points, 1 comments]
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